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almost as if they'd sometimes your blood

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very odd I mean I know a lady who who

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had the minnow now at one in a nose and

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she had it confirmed and she she went

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and had it she went all the way to

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Greece to have a private operation

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costing thousands of pounds to have it

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removed and she went back and she went

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back home again anyway a couple of weeks

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later someone put someone or something

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right ladies and gentlemen thank you

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very much for attending this meeting of

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Swansea UFO network firstly I'd like to

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say that the PSP's somewhat of a UFO

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flap at the moment we received numerous

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reports of strange sightings from

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individuals all over a local area

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however in the process of trying to

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interview the persons and record it all

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and the doc Damien will take the

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opportunity or one of our meetings to

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explain it all to you now then back to

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tonight we have the pleasure to greet

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for the second time mr. ben emmalin

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jones our guest speaker for the evening

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I'm sure it was likely to be the warm

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welcome he received last time that

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persuade him to return to us in so

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ancien certainly not the memory of this

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boiling-hot draft-free Markey as it was

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in the winter anyway anyway I brought a

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big coat with me tonight expecting to be

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absolutely freezing as I can see a few

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others of you have as well and now it's

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boiling in here anyway

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for those who are not familiar with Ben

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I'll give you a quick rundown on him Ben

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was born in Aberystwyth and brought up

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Oxford where up until about four years

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ago he'd spent 22 well-respected years

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as a hospital porter at Rudd John

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Radcliffe Hospital in Oxford no bed

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became interested in UFOs and various

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other conspiracy theories in the late

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1990s he started his website blog which

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was hospital Porter's against the New

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World Order in 2006 and it has thousands

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of visitors every day irregular tens and

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delivers talks and discussions all over

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Britain on a wide range of subjects and

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is thought this evening is entitled the

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history of Exopolitics it's older than

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you think

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now he's travelled a good distance today

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to be with us this evening so without

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further ado please give a warm soup on

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welcome to mr. ben emmalin jones thank

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thank you very much ladies and gentlemen

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it's great facts are coming this evening

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it's great to be back here again

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nice aware that it's light outside and

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this tent is not going to blow away like

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now honestly thought it was on the point

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of them being gone with the wind all

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right I'm glad I've got one of these

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microphones which is hands-free because

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I'm gonna need both of my hands so this

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evening as you'll find out later so I'm

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glad that you got to stand here for me

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Hospital Porter's against the new world

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over the years there's a YouTube channel

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multimedia and I keep it updated as much

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this was meeting the portering buddha i

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was a hospital porter for all those

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years as we just heard and I was rather

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unserem and ceremoniously kicked out of

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my job in 2012 which was very very

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distressing thing to happen and it was

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directly related to what I'm doing here

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and this isn't something that's happened

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and recurred more and more and more with

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different people in different

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professions so it's it's strange really

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some it's not a good career move to get

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interested in the kinds of subjects

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and over similar things other things

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but how the next slide please Mike right

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so how many of you are familiar with the

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common term nowadays and there's several

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conferences named Exopolitics which i've

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been involved with and that it's it's

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not the same as ufology now some

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people's in regard it almost as a

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synonym a synonym if you follow G but

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explained here and firstly ufology is

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of reports visual records physical

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evidence and other phenomena related to

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unidentified flying objects UFOs have

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independent groups and scientists now so

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definition definition of ufology it's a

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usually something to do with science

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definition of EXO politics from Michael

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salla who is an Australian expert on

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individuals political institutions and

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processes associated with

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extraterrestrial life information

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concerning extraterrestrial life and

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technologies kept secret from the

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general public elected political

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representatives and even senior military

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officials the supporting evidence is

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overwhelming that decision-making is

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restricted is restricted or strict

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need-to-know basis both ufology and

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recent term as well Exopolitics is dates

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finding for me simply ufologists who'll

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ufology is looking at your thoughts

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where are they where are they are they

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weather balloons are they lighthouses

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studies and things like that

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extraterrestrial or other dimensional

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different mindset and different skill

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to be properly defined that Nick Pope

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Exopolitics and he actually attended the

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2011 lead Exopolitics Expo and he

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brought along the Sun newspaper who

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condescended to to actually cover our

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event and report on it and Nick did his

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little he has a little column in the Sun

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ufology that's how we differ that's how

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he defined us it's very funny I mean

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when we were there oh yeah rubbish bins

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on emptied piling up huge towers of

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coffins outside graveyards and we're

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his ideas about things and of course I

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don't miss it I don't share all these

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views on these things at all they were

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we all had jolly good fun had by all

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united states like ufology it is

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centered on the United States no it's

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world where Exopolitics or ufology is

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are involved in ufology or Exopolitics

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it's it is the United States I think is

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the heartland of where Exopolitics is

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today however it's not always been the

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case and in fact um if you want I mean

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began because exopolitical ideas can be

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found throughout the history of ufology

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properly in early 1970s and it wasn't in

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the United States it was in this place I

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think this this place I think is where

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steps to real deliberate attempts to

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bring exopolitical ideas into the world

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this is Grenada now you may recognize

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want to go lie on those Sun now because

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trousers up to the knee and have a way

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didn't that see in the beautiful it is

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very popular for holiday destinations

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because of its nice beaches here it's

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blue seas and it's in the Caribbean and

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for its its friendly people it's

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the culture the food things like that so

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some people who visit it to indicate

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that this little island is actually one

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of the most important places in all of

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the history of Exopolitics graters

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interesting place denied it was actually

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a British Crown Colony originally and it

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it off the friendship are in 1877 you

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could buy islands in those days it was

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amazing and so it became a British Crown

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Grenada who I think he's one of the

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least well-known but I think one of the

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most important figures in the history of

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acts of politics next slide please Mike

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if you can make this one I don't work

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bigger than a beer cool it's a bit small

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so that's it right how many people

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you'll recognize this man no it's not

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Eddie Murphy looks a bit like him I know

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now it's hear a lot about enigmatic

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smiles within like the Mona Lisa and the

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famous painting this guy's got an

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enigmatic smile I think in this pits but

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in this big picture in particular this

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is Erika Gary now he was the first Prime

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Minister of Grenada and

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believe it or not he actually was a very

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very important figure in getting Eufaula

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you thought UFOs brought into the

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political sphere he was born in 1922

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like I said and he became when he grew

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up he became politically active and he

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became part of the movement which wanted

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to make grant grenadier independent

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nation

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in other words would leave the British

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Empire and become its own self-governing

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state and he rose from he took places in

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the colonial government he was elected

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and he rose through the ranks and

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through the different grades of

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political office until in in February of

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1974 just one month after the barren

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mountains incident up here in North

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Wales

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he became the country's first prime

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minister as it it wasn't independent

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nation and it's very interesting because

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he when Grenada became became

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independent it was offered a seat at the

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United Nations and Saric Gary went to

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the United Nations and immediately

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started work on a UFO initiative this is

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very long long before dr. Steven Greer

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or bassett or any of these other people

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yeah this is a very important picture

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it's very important historical document

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they say on the Left ACC Eric gairy and

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he is at the United Nations see the logo

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there and next to him is J Allen Hynek

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the ufologists there's a Jacques Vallee

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who's another another famous ufologists

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in the 1970s and Colonel Barry coin and

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he said about the United Nations

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discussing UFOs and he spent a lot of

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time doing that so next slide please

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now this is Texas at some text which you

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will actually get you can get this on if

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you've got the Grenada government portal

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and look through CEREC page on the

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history section this text is reproduced

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in full this is a part of a speech that

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CEREC gave in the 2012 of october 1978

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at the United Nations General Assembly

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he stood and he talked about this

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subject to meet you see here does it

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give you a few important some of the

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most important some clips here sightings

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of UFOs are not restricted to one or two

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parts of our planet reports come in from

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all over the world today and scientific

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analysis of these reports strongly

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suggests that a growing number of people

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believe that UFOs exist as a physical

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phenomenon more countries believe that

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in an in-depth investigation into this

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phenomenon it might make a significant

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contribution towards the well-being of

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planet Earth and towards man's better

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understanding of himself and his purpose

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on earth and that's have written the

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next slide please Mike she's bout one

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there's two of those blue ones

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this okay now this is the interesting

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where is it some yeah he talked to Allen

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Hynek here yep this one this is one way

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he actually um at one point he has he

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hints he's he gives a hint that the

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government around him knows more than

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it's saying isn't a knows more that's

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saying about it here we go um they

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promise to support myself lost where it

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is it doesn't matter you could even

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check this out on the on the Canadian

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government portal it's a very very

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interesting thing and so Eric gairy as I

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said he stood here in the UN and he

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talked quite openly about UFOs about

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some various things that you wanted to

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do next slide please

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Mike I don't how many of you collect

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stamps but this is a set of

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commemorative stamps made from 1978 that

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Eric actually ordered the post office of

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Grenada to issue and these are UFO

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themed stamps you see here two dollars

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as Grenada dollars and we research into

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UFOs if if any of you find one of these

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let me know and this is like the you see

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the 30 second regular session of the

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General Assembly of the United Nations

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and the Tapia walk out UFOs and related

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phenomena now and this in the background

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here is the United Nations building and

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you see a little UFO hovering up there

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in the corner now what's interesting is

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that that might have been based on a

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real report a UFO report because where

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that actually is in New York City was

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the near the UN General Assembly in a

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few years earlier in 1973 John Lennon

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the Beatle he saw a UFO in New York

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going along the Hudson River yeah this

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serve this river here and it looked a

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bit like that and and I wonder if that

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is actually there based on John Lennon's

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now Sarah carry the plan to make people

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he he petitioned the United Nations to

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make 1979 the International Year of the

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UFO now you know that you know that the

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UN has international years is had

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internationally as the child

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international years of the environment

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things like that where campaigns on

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particular issues over a certain amount

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of time and in 97 you know he wanted

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1979 to become the International Year of

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the UFO now this of course is a UFO

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event and there's many many others

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there's a new horizon st. Ann's and

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probe and things like that now can you

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just imagine our prime minister on a

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name now Teresa let's just imagine her

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standing on this stage talking you about

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UFOs can you imagine that it's extremely

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rare this is where Sarah Kerry's unique

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among the Statesmen of unique apart from

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perhaps Paul Hellyer MP of

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administrative defense of Canada who

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I'll talk about later this makes him

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very very unusual among statesmen

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because he actually did as a serving

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statesman he actually did attend very

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few of our meetings and he spoke at the

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UFO into the International UFO Congress

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now the International UFO Congress some

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of you might have actually been there

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too held them every year in Nevada USA

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and that has been since 1991 but it's

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there was an older you were

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International UFO Congress and we've

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started in 1977 and ahiret Gary spoke on

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stage at the first ever international

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UFO Congress and that's I think that's

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the only time a serving state of serving

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head of government has spoken of the UFO

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can't confess conference it's absolutely

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amazing development

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and Saric actually also in 1979 he

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wanted to host the the third new

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international UFO Congress on Grenada he

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actually planned to have it on Grenada

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and he wanted to build a UFO research

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center on Grenada

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but with telescopes special sky watching

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telescopes and things like that it's

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quite remarkable thing he was an amazing

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man I mean obviously one of the ideas

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he's a bit he's a bit crazy I'm the

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mainstream idea he's a bit crazy and of

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course many of his political rivals I'll

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explain more detail in a minute about

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all that but many of his political

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rivals used his interest in UFOs to

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discredit him they said well he's not

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fit to rule because he's crazy

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because he believes in flying saucers

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and little green men but when you

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actually look at what the average

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Grenadian in the street thought about

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this I mean were they particularly

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concerned about their you know their

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prime minister spending the taxpayers

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money

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on flying saucers and little green men

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it turns out that that didn't actually

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affect his popularity very much some

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other things soon would more earthly

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things and I would say more about that

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in a minute but it sounds like he did

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have the support of the grenade up the

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people of Grenada I mean probably just

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likes a small place doesn't have a very

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big population I think they were very

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much on his side I mean he was a popular

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leader anyway he was he was seen as a

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people's champion he was interested in

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women's rights which was a major concern

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in the Caribbean in those days he

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rebuilt the great officially industry

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his nickname was uncle whose people

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called him uncle so he was a popular

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leader and it seems that this stranger

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knew newer campaign of his strategy did

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nothing to actually dampen his people

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some support for him but other things

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soon would unfortunately next slide

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so Eric's initiative is not the only

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time that the UFO subject has brushed up

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against the United Nations I just

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mentioned a couple of these as well

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because it is very very important now

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when when Eric was at the UN the

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secretary-general at the time was an

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Austrian guy called Kurt Waldheim but

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his successor was this man on the left

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ear Javier Perez de Cuellar now in 1986

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something really remarkable happened the

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woman on the right is a young New Yorker

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Courtland and the Politan Oh and she

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reports in 1986 that she was abducted by

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extraterrestrials from her her apartment

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in New York City

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the aliens appeared in her bedroom and

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they levitated her off the bed she was

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completely paralyzed

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they never tainted her off the bed and

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basically maneuvered her weightless out

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the window the window shuts which they

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actually put she went straight through

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the glass and it was very scary because

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she was like on the sixth or seventh

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floor but they basically maneuvered it

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and they they maneuvered her through the

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air to this spaceship now very very

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unusually this particular alien

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abduction had witnesses and several came

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forward to say that they've been driving

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past in a car during the middle of night

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and they'd seen Linda Napolitano hanging

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in midair outside her bedroom window and

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these aliens around her and well it was

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never confirmed but the people who did

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come forward did say this man was in

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their company and they say it was this

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guy here Javier Perez de Cuellar now I

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think he just stopping un

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secretary-general after that but he was

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he was he - he left office at that time

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but it wasn't long after he left office

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that he actually he's never actually

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commented on this but the people are

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with him are known to be his colleagues

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and they say this guy mr. de Cuellar was

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with us

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we all saw this woman levitating in

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midair this is quite remarkable koats

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there and a un related UFO issue and

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that's not the only one

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next slide Mike you've probably seen

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this on YouTube this is a Ronald Reagan

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president of the United States during

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much of the 1980s now um he

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he's several times actually he may

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comment on stage that are you related to

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the idea of extraterrestrial life um

546
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twice actually I think this happened he

547
00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:27,880
said something along the lines of it

548
00:24:31,750 --> 00:24:30,170
amazes me you see that's how he was um

549
00:24:33,400 --> 00:24:31,760
involved in trying to end the Cold War

550
00:24:35,170 --> 00:24:33,410
he made he was working with Mikhail

551
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:35,180
Gorbachev the Soviet President to end

552
00:24:38,290 --> 00:24:36,650
the Cold War and he says I summarized

553
00:24:39,850 --> 00:24:38,300
think how quickly our worldly

554
00:24:43,330 --> 00:24:39,860
differences would be forgotten if we

555
00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:43,340
were faced with a peril from beyond this

556
00:24:49,030 --> 00:24:46,100
earth he said basically would that we

557
00:24:50,740 --> 00:24:49,040
the people would unite and form an

558
00:24:55,090 --> 00:24:50,750
alliance to protect our planet from a

559
00:24:57,100 --> 00:24:55,100
danger beyond our earth and then he

560
00:24:58,990 --> 00:24:57,110
quickly had it but wasn't some is

561
00:25:00,880 --> 00:24:59,000
intended to between people's enough of a

562
00:25:03,310 --> 00:25:00,890
danger because some I say that's an

563
00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:03,320
alien threat and so they quickly added

564
00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:05,570
that all at the end but it was I think

565
00:25:09,670 --> 00:25:07,970
it's because he was at that time the

566
00:25:11,980 --> 00:25:09,680
Cold War was rapidly cooling to the

567
00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:11,990
point where eventually would end and a

568
00:25:18,340 --> 00:25:14,090
short time later the Soviet Union itself

569
00:25:20,910 --> 00:25:18,350
would be disbanded but but this rumors

570
00:25:23,650 --> 00:25:20,920
that break and knew a lot of stuff about

571
00:25:25,180 --> 00:25:23,660
UFOs I mean he's reported to our

572
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:25,190
meetings have had meetings with Steven

573
00:25:29,830 --> 00:25:27,290
spielberger after Close Encounters the

574
00:25:30,970 --> 00:25:29,840
film came out he said oh you know mr.

575
00:25:32,500 --> 00:25:30,980
Spielberg you know where'd you get your

576
00:25:33,670 --> 00:25:32,510
ideas from you know a lot of that's real

577
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:33,680
what you've what you've talked about

578
00:25:37,870 --> 00:25:36,650
there so the peers that some Reagan I

579
00:25:42,530 --> 00:25:37,880
think had an interest in this sort of

580
00:25:42,540 --> 00:25:48,810
x1

581
00:25:52,889 --> 00:25:51,539
this is this is to Eric gairy again I'm

582
00:25:57,570 --> 00:25:52,899
he's I'm in a meeting with Jimmy Carter

583
00:25:58,830 --> 00:25:57,580
president in the United States now it's

584
00:25:59,879 --> 00:25:58,840
interesting that the conversations they

585
00:26:01,889 --> 00:25:59,889
must have had because I've got a feeling

586
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:01,899
these two heads of state may well have

587
00:26:06,499 --> 00:26:03,570
had a rapport with each other because

588
00:26:09,419 --> 00:26:06,509
Jimmy Carter's reported seeing a UFO -

589
00:26:12,570 --> 00:26:09,429
this happened a few years I think before

590
00:26:15,120 --> 00:26:12,580
you met Gary he was with his friend

591
00:26:17,789 --> 00:26:15,130
Shirley MacLaine who was an author was

592
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:17,799
written a lot about each of Tareq

593
00:26:20,999 --> 00:26:19,210
subjects the paranormal you were

594
00:26:22,769 --> 00:26:21,009
followed G things like that and he was

595
00:26:25,379 --> 00:26:22,779
staying with her at a ranch in the in

596
00:26:27,029 --> 00:26:25,389
the Colorado or someone like that and

597
00:26:30,029 --> 00:26:27,039
they saw they had a UFO sighting

598
00:26:32,279 --> 00:26:30,039
together and Carter has said this ever

599
00:26:34,049 --> 00:26:32,289
since he's reported it so I mean I

600
00:26:37,259 --> 00:26:34,059
wonder what kind of discussions they

601
00:26:39,149 --> 00:26:37,269
might have had during their summit I can

602
00:26:44,220 --> 00:26:39,159
imagine Carl yeah that's been thrown

603
00:26:46,529 --> 00:26:44,230
quite amazing next one I please sir is

604
00:26:50,039 --> 00:26:46,539
very much now the Gary initiative was

605
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:50,049
very very successful because here you

606
00:26:53,820 --> 00:26:52,330
can see it now this here the United

607
00:26:56,669 --> 00:26:53,830
Nations you know the UN General Assembly

608
00:27:01,070 --> 00:26:56,679
decision was 33 / 4 to 6 18th of

609
00:27:03,269 --> 00:27:01,080
December 1978 and this resolution says

610
00:27:04,980 --> 00:27:03,279
the establishment of an agency or

611
00:27:06,869 --> 00:27:04,990
Department of the United Nations for

612
00:27:09,090 --> 00:27:06,879
undertaking coordinating under cemetery

613
00:27:11,730 --> 00:27:09,100
disseminating the results of research

614
00:27:14,220 --> 00:27:11,740
into unidentified flying objects and

615
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:14,230
related phenomena at its 87th plenary

616
00:27:16,889 --> 00:27:15,610
meeting on the 18th of December night

617
00:27:18,330 --> 00:27:16,899
only 8 the General Assembly on

618
00:27:20,940 --> 00:27:18,340
recommendation not special to the

619
00:27:22,919 --> 00:27:20,950
committee adopted the following text as

620
00:27:26,460 --> 00:27:22,929
representing the consensus of the

621
00:27:28,440 --> 00:27:26,470
members of the assembly 1 the General

622
00:27:29,580 --> 00:27:28,450
Assembly has taken note of the states

623
00:27:32,490 --> 00:27:29,590
from made and a draft resolution

624
00:27:33,749 --> 00:27:32,500
submitted by Grenada at the 32nd and

625
00:27:36,450 --> 00:27:33,759
33rd sessions of the General Assembly

626
00:27:38,669 --> 00:27:36,460
we're going unidentified flying objects

627
00:27:40,289 --> 00:27:38,679
on related phenomena this is the United

628
00:27:43,289 --> 00:27:40,299
Nations ladies and gentlemen next slide

629
00:27:45,629 --> 00:27:43,299
please Mike to the General Assembly

630
00:27:48,180 --> 00:27:45,639
invites interested member states to take

631
00:27:50,249 --> 00:27:48,190
appropriate steps to coordinate on a

632
00:27:51,990 --> 00:27:50,259
national level scientific research and

633
00:27:52,870 --> 00:27:52,000
investigation into extraterrestrial life

634
00:27:56,710 --> 00:27:52,880
in

635
00:28:00,670 --> 00:27:56,720
third time they've said that

636
00:28:02,230 --> 00:28:00,680
unidentified flying object man even

637
00:28:03,790 --> 00:28:02,240
former Secretary General of observations

638
00:28:06,490 --> 00:28:03,800
research and evaluation of such

639
00:28:08,050 --> 00:28:06,500
activities of three the General Assembly

640
00:28:10,290 --> 00:28:08,060
requests the secretary-general to

641
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:10,300
transmit statements of the delegation of

642
00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:13,010
Grenada and the relevant documentation

643
00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:14,810
to the Committee on the peaceful uses

644
00:28:20,620 --> 00:28:17,450
around to space so that it may consider

645
00:28:21,880 --> 00:28:20,630
them at its session in 1939 for the

646
00:28:23,740 --> 00:28:21,890
Committee on the peaceful uses another

647
00:28:25,750 --> 00:28:23,750
space will permit Grenada upon his

648
00:28:28,540 --> 00:28:25,760
request to present its views to the

649
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:28,550
committee at its session in 1979 the

650
00:28:31,930 --> 00:28:29,810
committee's deliberation will be

651
00:28:33,850 --> 00:28:31,940
included in his report which will be

652
00:28:37,060 --> 00:28:33,860
considered by the General Assembly as

653
00:28:39,450 --> 00:28:37,070
thirty fourth session so they're in

654
00:28:42,490 --> 00:28:39,460
black and white Squire

655
00:28:43,870 --> 00:28:42,500
if you go to the you go to view a United

656
00:28:45,340 --> 00:28:43,880
Nation website and look up the records

657
00:28:47,230 --> 00:28:45,350
of the minutes of the meetings and

658
00:28:49,980 --> 00:28:47,240
resolutions you'll find it under that

659
00:28:53,500 --> 00:28:49,990
reference it's there this is an

660
00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:53,510
astonishing document because this is um

661
00:28:59,980 --> 00:28:57,410
Cana this actually sends a mandate for

662
00:29:02,200 --> 00:28:59,990
the Syria the adoption of the

663
00:29:07,570 --> 00:29:02,210
unidentified flying object has a serious

664
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:07,580
political topic which is really quite

665
00:29:13,710 --> 00:29:09,770
remarkable you consider the current the

666
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:13,720
modern day and how politicians react

667
00:29:17,290 --> 00:29:15,890
when this subject even comes up the way

668
00:29:19,930 --> 00:29:17,300
the way it's talked about in the media

669
00:29:23,830 --> 00:29:19,940
the way it's treated by popular culture

670
00:29:28,990 --> 00:29:23,840
as a joke there's no doubt that this was

671
00:29:31,690 --> 00:29:29,000
a movement towards possibly a safe an

672
00:29:33,190 --> 00:29:31,700
official investigation in not just an

673
00:29:35,790 --> 00:29:33,200
official investigation as it was with

674
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:35,800
Project Blue Book a few years earlier

675
00:29:42,220 --> 00:29:40,130
but a in a sense an X a political view

676
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:42,230
rather than a youthful logical view that

677
00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:43,970
these things are real Garrett as gary

678
00:29:48,340 --> 00:29:46,250
said he believed they were real when he

679
00:29:51,820 --> 00:29:48,350
addressed the UN the year before or they

680
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:51,830
the few months before and this could

681
00:29:58,300 --> 00:29:55,250
have resulted in not not necessarily

682
00:29:59,980 --> 00:29:58,310
disclosure of secret of topics but of

683
00:30:01,030 --> 00:29:59,990
classified information which I believed

684
00:30:04,930 --> 00:30:01,040
existed on the side

685
00:30:07,150 --> 00:30:04,940
but a raising of the lead status of a

686
00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:07,160
UFO from the fringe to the accepted

687
00:30:12,850 --> 00:30:10,040
which would then have probably could

688
00:30:15,730 --> 00:30:12,860
have gone anywhere from there so that

689
00:30:17,500 --> 00:30:15,740
was at the end of 1978 look very

690
00:30:20,350 --> 00:30:17,510
promising as hopeful times if you're a

691
00:30:23,860 --> 00:30:20,360
ufologist in those days but it all went

692
00:30:26,100 --> 00:30:23,870
terribly terribly wrong next slide

693
00:30:32,110 --> 00:30:30,130
on March the 15th of 1979 just a few

694
00:30:36,610 --> 00:30:32,120
months after that resolutions pass was

695
00:30:39,190 --> 00:30:36,620
drafted rather so Eric gairy was in New

696
00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:39,200
York again he was having consultations

697
00:30:44,590 --> 00:30:42,260
he was having another discussion with

698
00:30:48,430 --> 00:30:44,600
Val time when he received devastating

699
00:30:50,260 --> 00:30:48,440
news from home he's one of his political

700
00:30:52,150 --> 00:30:50,270
rivals his miss principal political

701
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:52,160
rival in the Grenada government this guy

702
00:31:00,430 --> 00:30:56,530
here a burner cord sorry Morris Bishop

703
00:31:01,780 --> 00:31:00,440
had seized power in a coup what happened

704
00:31:05,700 --> 00:31:01,790
was at Morris Bishop and his close

705
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:05,710
friend Bernard Coard and arranged a

706
00:31:10,180 --> 00:31:08,450
takeover the government by their party

707
00:31:13,030 --> 00:31:10,190
which was called the mule the new jewel

708
00:31:15,130 --> 00:31:13,040
movement jewel stands for Joint Endeavor

709
00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:15,140
for workers education and liberation

710
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:17,210
this was a Marxist Leninist group

711
00:31:21,910 --> 00:31:20,570
sponsored by Cuba and they they smuggled

712
00:31:24,130 --> 00:31:21,920
weapons onto the island and they

713
00:31:25,300 --> 00:31:24,140
basically the hudley time remembers all

714
00:31:26,890 --> 00:31:25,310
the members of the party had armed

715
00:31:28,900 --> 00:31:26,900
themselves and marched into the

716
00:31:32,770 --> 00:31:28,910
government house and basically announced

717
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:32,780
we're taking over we're going to we're

718
00:31:35,890 --> 00:31:34,370
now running this country Minister of

719
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:35,900
Grenada and all the other members of the

720
00:31:41,190 --> 00:31:38,240
new jewel part the party the new jewel

721
00:31:44,350 --> 00:31:41,200
movement were given government positions

722
00:31:48,610 --> 00:31:44,360
know one of the first things that Bishop

723
00:31:53,140 --> 00:31:48,620
did was to exile Sarek Gary and outlaw

724
00:31:55,300 --> 00:31:53,150
his party lots of members of the Gary's

725
00:31:57,790 --> 00:31:55,310
party actually were actually taken from

726
00:31:59,560 --> 00:31:57,800
their homes and put into a prison camp

727
00:32:01,330 --> 00:31:59,570
on one of the outlying islands of

728
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:01,340
grenade a part of Grenada but it's not

729
00:32:05,260 --> 00:32:02,930
on the actual island itself as a small

730
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:05,270
outline and nearby and they were kept

731
00:32:09,570 --> 00:32:07,289
there for five years

732
00:32:11,369 --> 00:32:09,580
so Eric couldn't come back he couldn't

733
00:32:13,950 --> 00:32:11,379
come back to his own it-it's his own

734
00:32:16,289 --> 00:32:13,960
home because he was exiled he wouldn't

735
00:32:18,570 --> 00:32:16,299
been allowed into his own country so he

736
00:32:20,820 --> 00:32:18,580
was banned from grade only yet he had to

737
00:32:22,710 --> 00:32:20,830
stay in in in the United States he C was

738
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:22,720
given political asylum in the United

739
00:32:27,899 --> 00:32:25,570
States and he had to stay there and he

740
00:32:29,700 --> 00:32:27,909
and basically he had unfortunately to

741
00:32:31,739 --> 00:32:29,710
drop everything he was doing with UFOs

742
00:32:35,119 --> 00:32:31,749
until he sorted out this mess in his own

743
00:32:37,830 --> 00:32:35,129
country and that took almost five years

744
00:32:39,419 --> 00:32:37,840
in the meantime he he also had to go on

745
00:32:41,009 --> 00:32:39,429
the run I mean he was at Miss America

746
00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:41,019
that's actually very in a very

747
00:32:45,899 --> 00:32:44,080
vulnerable position because um the new

748
00:32:48,690 --> 00:32:45,909
jewel movement bishops party actually

749
00:32:51,239 --> 00:32:48,700
had allies in the United States and one

750
00:32:54,749 --> 00:32:51,249
of them Mario Salas said that he would

751
00:32:56,489 --> 00:32:54,759
hunt down Gary and kill him so Sarah had

752
00:32:57,690 --> 00:32:56,499
to basically we had to watch his back

753
00:33:00,210 --> 00:32:57,700
when he was bad he had to carry a gun

754
00:33:02,220 --> 00:33:00,220
Ian's a pyro bodyguard yet to watch his

755
00:33:04,169 --> 00:33:02,230
back whenever he went out in case Alice

756
00:33:06,349 --> 00:33:04,179
or one of his associates came home and

757
00:33:11,159 --> 00:33:06,359
tried to kill him

758
00:33:12,749 --> 00:33:11,169
now the paradoxically even though this

759
00:33:14,489 --> 00:33:12,759
is an awful thing for Eric Gary the

760
00:33:18,450 --> 00:33:14,499
actual people are actually accepted the

761
00:33:20,460 --> 00:33:18,460
new regime quite quickly because this is

762
00:33:24,269 --> 00:33:20,470
the bishop years are actually seen as

763
00:33:28,019 --> 00:33:24,279
something of a golden age in Grenadiers

764
00:33:29,669 --> 00:33:28,029
history because basically the the actual

765
00:33:31,289 --> 00:33:29,679
island I mean grenade herself actually

766
00:33:33,629 --> 00:33:31,299
became one of the richest islands in the

767
00:33:36,090 --> 00:33:33,639
world during the bishop time during the

768
00:33:37,979 --> 00:33:36,100
bishop regime for its size of population

769
00:33:39,509 --> 00:33:37,989
it became enormously wealthy but this is

770
00:33:41,999 --> 00:33:39,519
basically because Cuba and for the

771
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:42,009
Soviet Union were bankrolling the place

772
00:33:45,299 --> 00:33:43,690
they were given the sending massive

773
00:33:47,159 --> 00:33:45,309
amounts of money to Grenada to develop

774
00:33:50,549 --> 00:33:47,169
it and develop the new socialist

775
00:33:52,169 --> 00:33:50,559
government there under under Bishop this

776
00:33:55,979 --> 00:33:52,179
is a lot to do with Cold War politics

777
00:33:58,279 --> 00:33:55,989
and the policies of the Caribbean at

778
00:34:01,229 --> 00:33:58,289
that time now in 1959 had been a

779
00:34:02,789 --> 00:34:01,239
revolution in Cuba and Fidel Castro and

780
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:02,799
Che Guevara they'd taken over the

781
00:34:09,020 --> 00:34:04,210
government and they'd instituted a

782
00:34:11,789 --> 00:34:09,030
soviet-style socialist regime there and

783
00:34:13,799 --> 00:34:11,799
the the same thing happened on Grenada

784
00:34:15,329 --> 00:34:13,809
was seen by as very strategic

785
00:34:16,859 --> 00:34:15,339
strategically very important for the

786
00:34:17,500 --> 00:34:16,869
Soviet Union because they know how to

787
00:34:20,649 --> 00:34:17,510
sec

788
00:34:21,430 --> 00:34:20,659
nation in that part of the world which

789
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:21,440
was an ally

790
00:34:26,820 --> 00:34:24,770
Cuba is cuber first and now Grenada as

791
00:34:29,850 --> 00:34:26,830
well in 1979 news and Grenada

792
00:34:33,460 --> 00:34:29,860
so um Sabich the Soviet Union with the

793
00:34:36,940 --> 00:34:33,470
Cuba and the Russians Soviet Union

794
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:36,950
basically gave Greg a blank check to

795
00:34:41,169 --> 00:34:39,770
spend on whatever they liked and it was

796
00:34:44,290 --> 00:34:41,179
a good time for people I mean it's

797
00:34:47,770 --> 00:34:44,300
whatever the whatever your opinions on

798
00:34:50,530 --> 00:34:47,780
the actual the actual form of government

799
00:34:52,450 --> 00:34:50,540
they had so many people it was they were

800
00:34:54,250 --> 00:34:52,460
very well off I mean young people went

801
00:34:55,720 --> 00:34:54,260
to Cuba to University and some of them

802
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:55,730
went to the Soviet Union from Grenada

803
00:34:59,410 --> 00:34:57,650
and studied there which they'd never

804
00:35:01,000 --> 00:34:59,420
been able to do before they never had to

805
00:35:02,260 --> 00:35:01,010
go to university and places like that

806
00:35:06,850 --> 00:35:02,270
before getting education they could

807
00:35:12,010 --> 00:35:06,860
never have before so the people were not

808
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:12,020
in a hurry to sort of forget to say Eric

809
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:13,610
come back and get rid of this guy for us

810
00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:16,610
well yeah which is a shame really say

811
00:35:22,210 --> 00:35:19,810
but that's the way it goes now um

812
00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:22,220
there's been some speculation I'll say

813
00:35:26,140 --> 00:35:23,690
but I'll say more about this later but

814
00:35:28,690 --> 00:35:26,150
there's been some talk about what was

815
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:28,700
the cause of this but anyway I'll say

816
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:30,650
what happened next now it's didn't last

817
00:35:35,740 --> 00:35:33,050
for long there's just room for five

818
00:35:38,100 --> 00:35:35,750
years the the bishop the bishop

819
00:35:40,990 --> 00:35:38,110
government actually held then in 1983

820
00:35:43,390 --> 00:35:41,000
his his friend Bernard Coard

821
00:35:47,890 --> 00:35:43,400
his deputy prime minister staged his own

822
00:35:49,810 --> 00:35:47,900
coup against bishops government he he

823
00:35:51,820 --> 00:35:49,820
took over himself and he arrested all

824
00:35:53,820 --> 00:35:51,830
the bishop with his own with his own

825
00:35:56,050 --> 00:35:53,830
cabal with in the new jewel movement

826
00:35:57,490 --> 00:35:56,060
took over the other side of the other

827
00:35:58,720 --> 00:35:57,500
two new jewel movement and arrested them

828
00:36:02,980 --> 00:35:58,730
so Bishop and all the others were

829
00:36:04,840 --> 00:36:02,990
arrested court appointed himself prime

830
00:36:05,470 --> 00:36:04,850
minister so put the sober liqueur became

831
00:36:09,730 --> 00:36:05,480
prime minister

832
00:36:11,890 --> 00:36:09,740
- Bishop was arrested and the first

833
00:36:15,910 --> 00:36:11,900
thing what court did was he asked him he

834
00:36:16,750 --> 00:36:15,920
took the bishop and all his his

835
00:36:19,180 --> 00:36:16,760
associates

836
00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:19,190
within the party and he killed them he

837
00:36:23,380 --> 00:36:20,930
shot them all they're known as the

838
00:36:25,780 --> 00:36:23,390
Grenada 17 sober Nicole shot Marissa

839
00:36:28,100 --> 00:36:25,790
Bishop and all the others so who needs

840
00:36:30,630 --> 00:36:28,110
enemies as the saying goes

841
00:36:32,630 --> 00:36:30,640
at this point the United States decided

842
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:32,640
to intervene just like I did in Iraq

843
00:36:40,680 --> 00:36:36,730
they actually sent a task force to

844
00:36:42,930 --> 00:36:40,690
Grenada and landed troops there and

845
00:36:47,430 --> 00:36:42,940
basically there was a big battle and the

846
00:36:49,350 --> 00:36:47,440
United States took over I took over the

847
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:49,360
cut the island and deposed Bernick or

848
00:36:53,340 --> 00:36:51,490
they killed court and all members and

849
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:53,350
anyone who were people who shot back

850
00:36:59,040 --> 00:36:56,610
from they knew the new jewel movement

851
00:37:00,450 --> 00:36:59,050
and then it was under US occupation now

852
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:00,460
when they were under US occupation they

853
00:37:05,070 --> 00:37:02,650
restored the previous Constitution the

854
00:37:07,170 --> 00:37:05,080
one that Bishop and outlook had actually

855
00:37:10,010 --> 00:37:07,180
abolished Gary's original Constitution

856
00:37:12,240 --> 00:37:10,020
from 1974 the Americans restored it and

857
00:37:15,270 --> 00:37:12,250
this was good ferret Gary because it

858
00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:15,280
meant he could now come home and he

859
00:37:20,490 --> 00:37:16,930
would there was basically there were

860
00:37:22,230 --> 00:37:20,500
three elections on Grenada now the good

861
00:37:24,240 --> 00:37:22,240
thing is that this the occupation of

862
00:37:26,310 --> 00:37:24,250
ground it was not as as bloody and

863
00:37:28,980 --> 00:37:26,320
troublesome as the US occupation of Iraq

864
00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:28,990
and things settled down pretty quickly

865
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:32,290
in the last us the last US forces

866
00:37:38,849 --> 00:37:34,330
actually left less than a year later

867
00:37:41,930 --> 00:37:38,859
less than a year after the invasion so

868
00:37:44,820 --> 00:37:41,940
Eric he ran for government a few times

869
00:37:47,370 --> 00:37:44,830
and he didn't yeah he did unless he was

870
00:37:50,250 --> 00:37:47,380
not as successful at I mean government

871
00:37:51,599 --> 00:37:50,260
as he was before the coup and it could

872
00:37:53,550 --> 00:37:51,609
be that he's tired he may have been

873
00:37:56,099 --> 00:37:53,560
getting he was just exhausted his allure

874
00:37:57,660 --> 00:37:56,109
had gone whatever the reason he never

875
00:38:01,200 --> 00:37:57,670
achieved high public office again

876
00:38:03,840 --> 00:38:01,210
unfortunately now there's a lot of talk

877
00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:03,850
about I mean you could say it was it

878
00:38:07,770 --> 00:38:05,890
sort of serendipitous especially with

879
00:38:09,180 --> 00:38:07,780
what I'm going to talk about in a little

880
00:38:11,340 --> 00:38:09,190
while as well with other events like

881
00:38:14,540 --> 00:38:11,350
this because there are parallels with

882
00:38:17,550 --> 00:38:14,550
other situations what happened with

883
00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:17,560
Grenada but you could say that if you're

884
00:38:22,109 --> 00:38:19,720
keeping if you were the secret keepers

885
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:22,119
of the UFO truth and the Gary initiative

886
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:24,970
was becoming troublesome people say well

887
00:38:29,220 --> 00:38:26,650
did they is there was this stage in

888
00:38:30,250 --> 00:38:29,230
order to just to stop Eric Gary in his

889
00:38:32,349 --> 00:38:30,260
tracks

890
00:38:37,480 --> 00:38:32,359
and to stop the Gary initiative to do

891
00:38:39,609 --> 00:38:37,490
with UFOs in the United Nations if

892
00:38:43,570 --> 00:38:39,619
there's no evidence to suggest that that

893
00:38:45,670 --> 00:38:43,580
is the case the what happened on Grenada

894
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:45,680
was a part of that Islands politics and

895
00:38:49,240 --> 00:38:47,930
that it was a combination of a political

896
00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:49,250
conflict that had been on that island

897
00:38:57,370 --> 00:38:54,770
for many many years before and in fact

898
00:38:59,830 --> 00:38:57,380
ever since the Cuban Revolution the

899
00:39:01,630 --> 00:38:59,840
whole region of the Caribbean has it's

900
00:39:04,180 --> 00:39:01,640
been a kind of cold war played out in

901
00:39:06,250 --> 00:39:04,190
proxy with the two sites Soviet

902
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:06,260
socialism Western capitalist democracy

903
00:39:10,990 --> 00:39:08,930
battling for control of that region and

904
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:11,000
when the conflict between Gary and

905
00:39:18,430 --> 00:39:15,410
spaceship and the cordon Bishop the kind

906
00:39:20,980 --> 00:39:18,440
of manifestations that larger proxy war

907
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:20,990
so there's no evidence to suggest that

908
00:39:25,720 --> 00:39:22,850
this was actually staged the coup in

909
00:39:28,030 --> 00:39:25,730
1979 was staged to shut up so Eric Gary

910
00:39:31,870 --> 00:39:28,040
and to just basically distract him from

911
00:39:34,570 --> 00:39:31,880
his UFO work you could but but you can

912
00:39:37,180 --> 00:39:34,580
bet if there was someone keeping secrets

913
00:39:38,980 --> 00:39:37,190
of UFOs I believe there are they would

914
00:39:42,460 --> 00:39:38,990
have been very relieved that they good

915
00:39:47,840 --> 00:39:42,470
luck definitely how the next slide

916
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:51,680
however that's despite what I just said

917
00:39:58,440 --> 00:39:56,050
this very interesting thing came in this

918
00:40:00,600 --> 00:39:58,450
is very very interesting this was posted

919
00:40:07,020 --> 00:40:00,610
on the BBC Caribbean website into it in

920
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:07,030
2010 UK foiled geureon UFOs now this is

921
00:40:13,650 --> 00:40:10,210
very interesting because there were some

922
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:13,660
recently Declassified telexes which

923
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:15,970
indicate that the British diplomatic

924
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:17,830
mission of the United Nations is the US

925
00:40:23,100 --> 00:40:20,470
ambassador to the United Nations will

926
00:40:25,950 --> 00:40:23,110
actually been in consultation with the

927
00:40:28,680 --> 00:40:25,960
Foreign Office about what Gary was doing

928
00:40:30,060 --> 00:40:28,690
with the UFOs and the advice for the

929
00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:30,070
Foreign Office was you've got to stop

930
00:40:33,630 --> 00:40:30,690
him

931
00:40:36,510 --> 00:40:33,640
now various telexes were sent back and

932
00:40:39,620 --> 00:40:36,520
forth and anyone under 20 is looking at

933
00:40:44,820 --> 00:40:39,630
me and as I say Ben what's a telex a

934
00:40:47,820 --> 00:40:44,830
telex is imagine an email on a shopping

935
00:40:50,010 --> 00:40:47,830
tool roll you've got it kids that's a

936
00:40:53,670 --> 00:40:50,020
telex and with these taxes was there's a

937
00:40:55,080 --> 00:40:53,680
large number of them and but it appears

938
00:40:56,700 --> 00:40:55,090
that there doesn't seem nice on the

939
00:40:59,070 --> 00:40:56,710
surface within this evidence has come to

940
00:41:00,960 --> 00:40:59,080
light it doesn't seem to be any the

941
00:41:03,450 --> 00:41:00,970
concern about UFOs doesn't seem to be

942
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:03,460
while we know we got secrets we got a

943
00:41:06,780 --> 00:41:05,170
secret we've got to keep and this guy's

944
00:41:08,150 --> 00:41:06,790
gonna blow up on the secrets and we

945
00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:08,160
better put a stop to him for that reason

946
00:41:15,180 --> 00:41:11,530
now listen there's not that it's more a

947
00:41:17,220 --> 00:41:15,190
case of what people think of us this is

948
00:41:19,110 --> 00:41:17,230
really not only no the United Nations

949
00:41:21,930 --> 00:41:19,120
were not set up to deal with this

950
00:41:23,940 --> 00:41:21,940
tomfoolery we need to just we need to

951
00:41:26,190 --> 00:41:23,950
try to stop this resolution because it's

952
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:26,200
just so it's so embarrassing it'll make

953
00:41:30,510 --> 00:41:28,690
the United UN look ridiculous so there's

954
00:41:31,950 --> 00:41:30,520
more that kind of thing the the concern

955
00:41:34,380 --> 00:41:31,960
of the UK government and they and its

956
00:41:36,630 --> 00:41:34,390
submission in the UN's really one of

957
00:41:38,580 --> 00:41:36,640
public image they believe that the Gary

958
00:41:39,900 --> 00:41:38,590
initiative was actually it was it was

959
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:39,910
making a joke at the UN because they

960
00:41:42,810 --> 00:41:41,290
didn't believe in UFOs they thought your

961
00:41:45,330 --> 00:41:42,820
folks are crazy and they thought well

962
00:41:47,970 --> 00:41:45,340
the UN should not be absorbing itself

963
00:41:50,170 --> 00:41:47,980
and wasting his time with something so

964
00:41:57,290 --> 00:41:50,180
fringe and crazy

965
00:41:58,400 --> 00:41:57,300
next slide place one Sarek Gary spent

966
00:41:59,780 --> 00:41:58,410
the rest of his life he lived the rest

967
00:42:02,990 --> 00:41:59,790
of his life on his hike in his home

968
00:42:04,609 --> 00:42:03,000
country as I said he was not he was not

969
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:04,619
successful in politics yet he thought he

970
00:42:13,609 --> 00:42:06,570
retired very soon after returning to

971
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:13,619
Grenada in 1985 and so 1983 sorry and he

972
00:42:19,609 --> 00:42:17,280
died in 1997 in his homeland he's buried

973
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:19,619
today in Georgetown there's a memorial

974
00:42:26,750 --> 00:42:22,770
to him and so I hope you'll take a

975
00:42:29,000 --> 00:42:26,760
moment to recognize this very unsung

976
00:42:30,950 --> 00:42:29,010
hero of Exopolitics and if you're ever

977
00:42:32,300 --> 00:42:30,960
on holiday in Grenada and you're sunning

978
00:42:34,430 --> 00:42:32,310
yourself on a beautiful beach and

979
00:42:36,050 --> 00:42:34,440
swimming in that lovely blue sea you

980
00:42:38,300 --> 00:42:36,060
might take a moment just to pop to the

981
00:42:41,060 --> 00:42:38,310
florists pick up a bunch of

982
00:42:43,160 --> 00:42:41,070
chrysanthemums and put a little UFO card

983
00:42:44,599 --> 00:42:43,170
in them or something and then one of

984
00:42:47,359 --> 00:42:44,609
your little sous fun card would be nice

985
00:42:51,620 --> 00:42:47,369
wouldn't it and I lay it lay that lay it

986
00:42:58,040 --> 00:42:51,630
on the grave of Sarah Gary an excellent

987
00:42:59,329 --> 00:42:58,050
place how we doing for time all right

988
00:43:00,890 --> 00:42:59,339
I think now is a good time to take a

989
00:43:02,750 --> 00:43:00,900
little break and we'll come back and

990
00:43:04,849 --> 00:43:02,760
I'll deal with the rest of this in a

991
00:43:06,740 --> 00:43:04,859
little while because we've look want us

992
00:43:09,140 --> 00:43:06,750
another subject or another next stage in

993
00:43:11,150 --> 00:43:09,150
the history of Exopolitics so get